Lmao! Exactly!!! There is no comparison.
Wow. *blink* indeed.
^ My thoughts exactly, Amaya. Coherent words are escaping me.
Yep! They cannot deny the comparisons even if they tried.
That sistas head-whips ain't no joke!
Haha, that's a lot of space and lack of flow between them bodies in the first video. But maybe occasion matters. As in first video is probably a concert in Korea and the other is a widely released music video.
Fashion tip to the first dancer:1) LOOK at Jay. Eye contact does wonders for chemistry.2) Think about actually fucking Jay.3) Spend all your spare time thinking about fucking Jay, seriously fucking his brains out, or at least until his eyes roll into the back of his head.4) Bring that heat and that fantasy to the stage. I mean, my eyes kept going to Jay; he was generating heat without even trying.And people wonder why these popstars keep trying to put Black women in their videos and concerts.
The first dancer is almost robotic. I noticed that same vacant look of the faces of some of Rain's female dancers. They seem to just be going through the motions. They're not FEELING the music or the artist that's dancing with them. Interesting...
Exactly, you have to be feelin' the other person.Dancer #1 looks like she's thinking about her paycheck or how her hair looks. It's like she's forgotten she's the guest on the stage and not the star.Dancer #2 looks like she may flirted with Jay a couple of times behind the scenes. Like they've had a conversation or two. She also takes her work seriously, realizing this shit is make-or-break. She knows that how well she performs influences whichever Black female dancers who may or may not follow. So when she's supposed to be sexy, she breaks out the sleek and svelte; when she's supposed to be strong, she breaks out the force.
I'm sorry, but number two had me rolling. And I agree that "flow" or "swag" was not even in the vicinity for dancer 1. When I saw a couple days ago, my face was literally like -____-. As a dancer myself, we would have a whole section of class where you would get a partner for the year and basically "flow" and dance with them learning how to make chemistry with the person. I think Korean dancers need to work on that.
@nicole I went to the last Rain concert and my main complaint that me as well as all of the foreigners I went with was the fact that his dancers have no passion in their eyes at all. I mean...ITS RAIN!!!! If I had a chance to be dancing on him for two hours, I would dance like it was my last time dancing ever.
lmao! Exactly! This is RAIN we're talkin' about. You better have on some heels and make it clap. Dance like the rent is due. Connect with the man! I just don't get it.
@ nicole this is why I wish I could try out for some of these videos and see what would happen. I mean I'm a size ten and kinda tall (5'8) so I dont know how they would respond to me. But I feel like we should show them how its done. You know whats funny, when im in korea, we go to this club named monnkey beach and they have dance contests and me and my two friends (who are african-american as well) won every week and even got the top honor of getting three bottles which is the highest you can get. I mean they are always telling us how awesome we are when it comes to dancing but when we are actually IN a video, they have a problem with it.IT NO MAKE NO SENSE *says in a Haitian accent*. (i'm haitian so i do it pretty well hehe)
LOL ... Meanwhile Jay Park has had to change the choreography to this song. Because some people found that stone like robotic concert performance "too provocative". Korea isn't ready for the fire that is a Black woman, if video #1 is too much for them to handle ...Here's a link to an article showing the new choreography : http://www.allkpop.com/2012/02/jay-park-modifies-know-your-name-choreography-2
Exactly! They midas well hang it up. The fact that he had to change his choreography proves that these guys have very little, to no room for any kind of growth or artistic expression.
I watched the clip Hazel. I feel sorry for Jay. They seem to be really coming after this guy.If it's not Rain, Se7en or Jay I just don't Give-a-F*ck.
I think they're still trying to get back at him for his comments on Korea. I feel sorry for him too Nicole, how are these artist going to grow if they're so tightly restricted?
You know what? I was thinking the same thing. It feels like he's being punished for that MySpace controversy he was involved in.I'm surprised he even returned to Korea. When he made those comments, people actually posted "Kill Yourself" on his MySpace page. I honestly think he would have more success in the states.They all seem to be trapped in this Peter-Pan Matrix that no one will release them from. I would have had a meltdown by now if I was in that industry.
LOL Peter-Pan Matrix ... I'm going to use that from now on.
Oops! I was getting sleepy and my mind was all over the place. I took a second look at it. That first girl has nothing on Mauika. I bet that Jay felt being around her than the first girl, knowing that he can be himself. It's too bad that he has to target Kpop audiences. He would have really showed off if her would have made it in the U.S.
I agree M. He really comes alive with Mauika. Energy is transferred. He's picking up on what Mauika's putting out there. They look great dancing together.
Dancer #1 dances like she is counting. She probably learned "hip hop" dance in a studio. There is a Rain interview where he talks about how early on he did not dance with soul, with feeling. How he had to learn. I remember Michael Jackson did an interview where he complained that these young dancers count when they dance. I do dance cardio classes and the counting actually messes up my rhythm. I have to ignore the counting and just feel where the transition is supposed to be if I want to stay on beat.Anyway the point is that Dancer #1 is not feeling it, she is counting her steps and awaiting her cue instead of throwing herself into the music and into Jay Park's fine ass.
Couldn't have said it better.
I don't know how you can see their faces and expressions but I do agree with you on the "no feelings" of Kpop dancers (and many singers as well).There are some black women on Japanese videos too, like some of DOUBLE's music videos.
Oh oops sorry for the anonymous thing...
I really hate to always be the bearer of bad news and all but this concerns Kpop and racism. Recently, a worthless excuse for a human being went on a racist tirade in which she called for the genocide of Black people. This person is also a songwriter for the famous SNSD or Girls Generation. See Jenny Hyun, songwriter for SNSD & Chocolat, is a racist psychopath for more info.I'd have written a post and all but I'm just fucking tired of racism in Kpop right now (this post (not written by me!) pretty much sums up how I feel. I'm seriously considering abandoning Kpop all together, I'm not in the business of supporting racist industries. The Afro-futurist scene in African music is currently growing. I'd rather support up and coming artists like Spoek Mathambo (who I have a massive crush on) and Just A Band, than deal with yet another case of blackface, racist and otherwise offensive comments and white people worship from Kpop.
http://jennyhyun.wordpress.com/2012/02/15/niger/A commenter on the asianjunkie.com had a link to one of Jeeny Hyun sites. Comparing the shape of a fried chicken leg to the country known as Niger with the question "Coincidence?"..Blank.Stare.However, another user has a petition to get Korean and International companies to blacklist her.https://www.change.org/petitions/korean-and-international-entertainment-companies-blacklist-jenny-hyun#I read all of the tweets in the article and saw them on her page. It is very disturbing and I hope she was just drunk, intoxicated, or something to actually POST those feelings. That woman needs help. But I do agree that companies that choose to not fire her are supportive of her views so I cannot support artists from those companies.
@Eccentricyoruba-- I agree with you 100% I saw some of her tweets. She's really out of her mind. I know the music industry in South Korea will probably do nothing about this.Its interesting that everyone here at the narrative was getting their "Popcorn" out waiting for folks to crash and burn. It seems to be happening sooner than later.
*nods* I scribbled a little something.
First girl...is not a good dancer she's not bringing the believability to the dance at all, this is the kind of dance where there should be chemistry. I am a dancer so I know that, but shit his ass is FIIINE I'd of turned up the heat for him...Woulda gone hard for that boy, I would have given him one hell of a good day man. No body would have doubted the chemistry there. Then again the Boy is fine and he'd be able to get it from me.and I feel yah on the Rain stuff he is a hottie. I'd danced hard and sexy for him too. But yea that's something that needs to be worked upon the believability of the chemistry cause honestly I couldn't see it. Chemistry and connection is everything in dance and music.
LMAO I am back on here again this place is really addicting JEEZ!!! It is indeed quite amazing how much can be proven in under 30 seconds.It is 2012 and ironically I have never been happier to be Black for some reason. Although white and yellow mud (couldn't find any better terms)is being slung at black folk left and right. I no longer view it as out right hate and the worst one " how can I change these peoples minds?". I have come to see it as great envy and down right ignorance. Blackness is something is my mind these haters lack deeply and dearly and they themselves cannot cope with this inconvenient truth.These past few days I have slowly have come to the conclusion that kpop is a joke nothing more nothing less. I mean the nature of music has gotten so bad on both the Eastern and Western fronts that I find my self looking for as much Cab Calloway, Donnell Jones,Marvin Gaye, Mario Winans, and Bill Withers to download. A final conclusion I have made is that no I not will be getting another MOTOWN so must deal and dig into my parents' archives.
I've been listening to a lot of Donnie Hathaway, Eric Roberson,Erykah Badu, En Vogue, Maxwell, D'angelo, Prince, N'Dambi.. and the list goes on and on.Its interesting that these Kpop artists claim people like Usher, R.Kelly, D'angelo are influences, yet it doesn't reflect in their music at all. The only person I feel this vibe coming from is Monsieur Nov (I downloaded both of his albums--I think I'm in love!)s
Just saw the new Big Bang mv and well we were all right, there are NO Black or Latino people in that mv.
As I promised myself, I wasn't going to watch that video or support Kpop unless it people like Rain, Se7en, Jay Park, Tiger JK( though he's not in the Kpop genre) and others like them.
Damn, you beat me to it. But here's the link in case anyone wants to watch and practice the fine art of sighing:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GRP1rkE4O0&feature=g-logo&context=G29acdf7FOAAAAAAAAAAI don't get it. What's the point in coming all the way to NYC to shoot this boring video? Why hold an "all ethnicities" casting call when you're just going to pick women that look like mainstream models to do it?
I'm with M. I will not be watching that video. Like Lenoxave said, these dudes are fooling themselves if they think they're going to get any kind of success being associated with white folks.
Cece - I asked myself the same question. YG wasted a whole bunch of $$$ and fuel on this one. NY is 80% non-white and yet, POC are nowhere to be found. LOL!
"-__- BIG BANG = FAIL.
I saw the video and can tell you that it was a snooze fest. It looked like an early 90's jeans commercial. Yes, YG wasted money on this mess. They supposedly shot another video in NYC, but I don't have much hope for it either.The white fan girls are complaining that the girl in the video "isn't pretty enough" and "there are better looking white girls walking down the street", I had to laugh.
it was a snooze fest. It looked like an early 90's jeans commercial.I watched the first 15 seconds, was reminded of New kids on the Block, heard that generic techno beat, and fell asleep.
Omg, it's Please Don't go Girl. They're practically the same video.
I want to watch it just to see what you guys are talking about, but I already vowed I wouldn't. :/
Omg, it's Please Don't go GirlAh. *nods* So I'm not the only one.
yall are killin me with the New Kids reference
Truthseeker - I saw it as well and remain unsurprised. We said it in the other post. They are only fooling themselves if they believe white faces = int'l acceptance/success.
LMAO I was dying watching the video and reading the comments. A joke it was indeed.People wasn't try to hear me when I was ringing the bell!!!!
My friend who is Vietnamese American said the exact same thing that everyone else here is saying and she is a big support of Big Bang.
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