3.23.2012

Here's What I was Getting at Before

You've seen these before, but not collected all at once: what do you gather from these five vids?  What sticks out to you?  See any patterns?







Go ahead and count. I'll wait.

37 comments:

  1. That was very interesting! The last one was a surprise. I never knew there were so many blasian music video. The first one i ever saw was from Far East Movement when Rocketeer first came out. I'm book marking this page. The last song made me want to jam but i didn't understand the point of them killing each other o.o

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    1. So I keep listening to Aoki and I'm really addicted. My attraction from first time listening to it blossomed. I love how she surprised me and kept me on edge. I can't stop wanting to dance along with it! All of the videos were fantastic!

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  2. And to think that some people actually think that black women are too busy putting white men on a pedestal, to even consider another man because clearly IR just consists of BW/WM *rolls eyes*

    Loving this and going to put that steve aoki on repeat for a good week.

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  3. A nice diverse group of black women with different complexions, hair styles and personalities. The Planet didn't explode and locust didn't come. In other words there is nothing wrong with Asian men putting black women in their videos. My favorites are Steve Aoki and Wynter Gordon and Se7en and Lil' Kim.I tend to like a darker/sexy edgier aesthetic. I appreciate all the videos though. <3

    Again, Good job Ankh.

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  4. Thanks everyone, but I was actually hoping to get a discussion going.

    What sticks out to you? Who's similar, who's different, and how?

    What's a pattern you see in these videos regarding how the Black women are depicted?

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  5. I think the Se7en, Jay and Steve Aoki videos are similar in terms of the female leads being really sexy/powerful and owning their sexuality.

    The video that stands out the most believe it or not, is Kim and Se7en. I really like their chemistry. They seem to really connect and enjoy each others company. There are moments when they look like they want to sneak a kiss as well.

    The pattern I see is that all of these black women are desired/pursued in some way. Even the violent Steve Aoki video is its own form of foreplay.

    Monsieur Nov and Kero One just show the ordinary everyday lives of couples who are in a relationship/in love. You also see Asian men being romantic (Monsieur Nov/Kero One) and being the aggressor/sexual (Se7en/Jay Park) which we don't see often.

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    1. The video that stands out the most believe it or not, is Kim and Se7en.

      Really? I didn't expect anyone to say that.

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    2. I think its how flirty they are, how close they're sitting together. I don't know--Its just something about the video I like.(Plus I'm a Se7en stan!)

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  6. P.s.- Another thing: Unlike some of the KPop videos I've seen, there is a lot of intimacy between Asian men and [black] women in these videos.

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    1. It's obvious. Kissing/caressing in Asian media is not that common/easy. Conservative mindset. Sexiness is kinda controlled.
      Also...the idols in kpop are supposed to act sexy but not much with women, I guess it would piss off their fans, there're even scandals about their real life girlfriends. When there's a woman in an idol band's video, it's usually boring, romantic and a ballad song, or an upbeat song with closer presence of a female dancer which was rare I think (the latter only happened for some idols' solo career, right? Big Bang?).

      So yeah, Asian guys are more free outside of Asia and outside of an idol grip.
      The Asian women featured in some FEM's vids are not sexy and it's not surprising to see these MVs were successful in Korea. I also think that it's hard for them to shake the stereotype about Asian women being only "cute" and not openly intimate with a man even in the US. Maybe both sides don't feel confident about it?
      As for black women/Asian men intimacy in videos...RnB videos are known for showing love/close couples...that's maybe why. Just saying.

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    2. Oops, I take back what I said about FEM's vids with Asian women, I was mistaken with Aziatix!

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    3. I agree with Myra. Maybe its because these artists are functioning outside of the Kpop machine they are given more freedom and wiggle room in terms of who they put in their videos and how they interact with these ladies.

      The LL Brothers out of Japan are pursuing these black women in the video "That's My Life"(From 2007). Granted this video is a mess and I always burst out laughing when I see it... Starting at 2:09 there are a group of black women walking down the street. This video is hood as hell but I couldn't resist..

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xqc0aEyhbo8

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    4. @Nicole LOL!!! That video is hilarious! It reminds me of numerous hip hop/rap videos from America ... so good job? I like the song *bounces to beat*

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    5. LOL I expected Nino Brown from "New Jack City" to pop up.I watch their Television performances on youtube, and they act the same way. There are no words.. lol

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    6. ZOMG, I'm sorry but the moment he burst thru those doors and started dancing in that suit I immediately though "Kung Fu Hustle" LOL! I laughed thru the whole thing

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  7. What would pop music be without black street culture? I am impressed. Video #4 has it going on!

    The women, while different, are still "safe". They all pass the paper bag test, except for (maybe) Wynter Gordon. On the other hand, they use more "normal" girls- Video #1 at 3:17 - they look like two sister girls I would see around. I am still waiting for my alek wek look alike to blow up though....


    I can't stand her crazy, half naked behind.... however Lil Kim is still relevant and I gotta give her props for that! Her former crew is either dead, broke, lost interest, lost their mind or in jail. Diddy and her did a cross over and it worked for them. In general, I see a woman who is likeable, sexy and yeah... BOSS.


    What I have seen in (limited) Asian pop media, while the women are sexy they are NOT allowed to be slutty. I thank them for it. I really do...
    I wanna wear what Kim's wearing to a club some day. Just gotta drop some lbs first!

    I also notice the women are older.

    They look mid twenties - early 30's. But so are the guys. These video's are probably aimed at a mature audience anyway. The guys look pretty laid back, I don't get "aggressive male" vibe, which could be why there are so many nice looking women in the videos. the KERO ONE video, for example.

    I hope this isn't just a fad, it could make them ALOT of money in the future if they keep trying and working it out.

    Just for Haha:

    Why is Aoki channeling "colonel sanders" and beating up on a woman? Why she gotta get blasted to bits? I love how he runs up the stairs and then comes back for a lamp and She doesn't see that coming, ROFL!?

    LOL...is that wrong of me to say ankh !?

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    1. The women, while different, are still "safe". They all pass the paper bag test, except for (maybe) Wynter Gordon

      Did you see Kero One's woman at the end? Quite dark. As were the women in the first two vids. I sort off pass the paper bag test, and those two are quite darker than I am.

      I also notice the women are older.

      Only in the case of Se7en, who grew up idolizing Lil Kim. Rain did too.

      Why is Aoki channeling "colonel sanders" and beating up on a woman?

      They're channeling Mr. & Mrs. Smith.

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    2. Mauika Hicks (Jay Park's video) is also quite dark.

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  8. The first blasian video I've seen was the Aaliyah with Jet Li, (even though that video isn't featured here) and FEM's Rocketeer and Jay Park's recent video. The rest, I've heard of them, but never watched them before. All videos are really good, but I can't help but to think Jay's video reminds me an awful like Justin's "My Girl" video. Regardless of that, I agree with Nicole Mar's words. They are all different but seems to show women to be desired/pursued in some way.

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    1. I meant "My Love" or whatever Justin's song was called @o@ I forgot lol

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    2. The first blasian video I've seen was the Aaliyah with Jet Li, (even though that video isn't featured here)

      Different post for a different day.

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  9. Seriously, I don't see much into it but I'll give it a try...in some of the MVs the blasian couple has some obstacle and the girls, black or not, are more aggressive (Aoki MV), show interest (Se7en's & Kero's MV) or get closer to the guy by being sexy (Jay's dancer). Asian guys look popular/desired heheh
    FEM's MV is about a break-up somehow...the girl has to go abroad.
    Monsieur Nov is talking to her through the window, not on a date. He says that too many guys are into her and that he needs to catch her attention first and is not very confident...she seems to like him and was the first one to look at him so the "problem" is solved.
    Jay Park's and Se7en's MVs are about professional appearances, not a love interest. Professional barrier.

    The lyrics are also all focused on a love interest, except Se7en's who talking about girls.

    Kero One is usually not my cup of tea, I'm not into his voice/flow, this song is sweet though. The old Asian couple is cute in the video. I'm wondering if I should go to Monsieur Nov's concert next month...I'm not really a fan (not yet) and I'm broke. So I'll see...

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  10. I have one! By Aubrun "All About Him". She recruited her friends and actual boyfriend (who is asian) in this MV.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBz5Rmc9l1Y&feature=plcp&context=C466f4c9VDvjVQa1PpcFNL6Nq7XY5tnek4sl9CaDKgBmWkBlkh8BA%3D

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    1. Oh goodness, i just searched and you guys have already covered this! My bad!

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  11. The first blasian video i ever saw was the Cinderella movie with Brandy, and Whitney Houseten.

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    1. Boo-boo, we're talking music videos. Not tv/film.

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  12. This might be kinda off topic but FEM deals a lot with am/bw because their new video "Jello" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSqmprBRFXg&ob=av2e
    also has a black woman featured and in the end kevnish kisses "Oprah" and Jay Park makes a cameo and it.

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  13. Is there like a place on this blog where I can ask a question besides the comment section?

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    1. You can contact us through the blog's email.

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  14. What I liked about the se7en's video is that they didn't try to hide Lil Kim away until it was her turn to sing/rap. She was in the intro all the way to the end.

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  15. As a 20 year old African American female, I'm happy to see that there are more videos featuring us in a positive light verses the crude and sexualized roles that we are normally portrayed in. When my mother went to the Middle East for work, she told me how alot of Middle Easterns only have music videos to go by when it comes to seeing African American women, which is sad as there are other counties and populations that only see us as half naked harlots on some shiny car in a video instead of the classier, smarter women that we are. To me seeing these videos of popular artist such Se7en, Jay park and FM showing that we are not just baby oiled...I was on Maury 5 times trying to find my baby's daddy...Straight outta Compton stereotypes, seems like their making us a little less taboo and dare I say normal. But I think we have a long way to go before we're considered equals in the Asian(Specifically speaking Korean)music world. But never fear Japan seems a okay with us being in their videos.


    Here's a video that features both Black women and men.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=k5qLjw8I0pA (Namie Amuro-Rock Steady)

    And the LL brothers video I died when I saw the Pinstriped suit, pinstripes should be against the law!

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  16. I dont think is a fad at least for Jay park,he is much more "hardcore" in terms of looks ,attitude,fashion than the other "kpopstars",I know cause my daughter is a huge fan of him and she tells me everything that he does...He even had problems in korea

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  17. There is also Bi (Rain)'s LA SONG!! *blush*

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