7.31.2012

Open Thread: The Olympics

Anybody watching?  Got any good links?  Personally, I'm possessed.  Not to mention, I love watching China step all over the Western teams.  *shrug*  Call me an old softie.

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  1. The one local channel that got exclusive license (thus forcing even cable companies to block their Olympic feeds)is screwing up royally re: quality transmission. >=( I haven't been able to watch jack.

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  2. Did you notice the dig that the media took at that 16 year old girl swimming for China? I wonder if the same skepticism was applied to Phelps. Doping my ass. Sounds like sour grapes that a teenage girl of colour is outperforming some of your (white) men.

    My greatest pleasure so far has been watching the Chinese gymnasts.

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    1. Sounds like basic science. A girl (not even a woman) swimming faster than a man. I don't race comes into play there. Anyone in their right mind would raise eyebrows at that result. Skepticism was applied to Phelps. He insisted on double possibly triple testing to get pass it. People still question it.

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    2. Yeah, I agree...I don't think it is out of line to question that when so much about swimming is about strength and physics and no amount of training is going to make a small woman (big hands or not) equivalent to men who are 6'4 or bigger or at least have that wingspan (I feel as though I've seen Michael Phelps height listed as being at least 6'4 but saw him in Ann Arbor and what we noticed is that he didn't look so tall but clearly had a much longer arm span than his height, which is definitely going to make a huge difference. So even if he is that tall, he has really, really long arms). And on the women's side, a it's the same story. Lots of girls over 6 feet tall except in the really, really long races.

      If Janet Evans had been clocking faster than Gary Hall Jr. or Ian Thorpe, I think people would have questioned that too. And plenty of those giant men have been dogged with similar allegations.

      As a lot of sports have gotten more competitive, bigger, taller people with bigger muscles have really dominated. Simply put, athletes are way more athletic than ever. If I'm swimming or running against someone who is half a foot taller than me, I have to do a lot more work to equal their stride, their reach, etc. and by the time we come into the home stretch, I've just used up a LOT more energy. Heck I remember that at my university, you had to be at least 5'8 to be on the varsity crew team. Only the coxswain can be small. Now over distance, this can change, and being smaller can help(I think a lot of the best male runners at least are well under 6 feet), but yeah, when a burst of power is needed, I'm going to bet on size.

      I figure that if she's a cheater, it will come out, so I don't need to make any declarations either way. But as much cheating occurs at high level sports (and people from every country has been caught), it's not like people shouldn't question b/c we know people are always working on things that can beat the latest test, and honestly, in a system that is so competitive and where so much is riding on success, anything can be possible. (Back in the 80's, those Soviet and East German women were coming from a similar system, and I think they were being doped in some cases without knowledge or consent)

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    3. Oops, I should say the GIRLS Varsity crew team...they were like these giant strong Amazons when they were all together.

      The male rowers were all well above 6 feet, usually 6'2 or bigger (and marvelously built...best legs on campus).

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    4. Just going to echo my comment further below, I initially did not want to leave multiple comments, but I did notice the media dig (thanks to the blogs I subscribe to, I'm not watching the Olympics) and I think it is not only racist but sexist and a typical showing of Western arrogance. It's also sour grapes yes.

      Ye Shinwen has been tested and cleared by the relevant people according to the Chinese news feed, why on earth does the Western media insist on accusing her of doping? I also wonder what the powers that be in the Olympics have said on this? They are the ones that apparently tested her. I've seen people mention science (but science can never be racist or sexist too), and the fact that Ye Shinwen has beaten her past records but honestly all of that flies over my head.

      I still believe Ye Shinwen should be celebrated, not humiliated by the media and other sexist white men who think it is an "anomaly" for a 16 year old girl to achieve what she did. *kiss teeth* I also find it amusing that is makes sense to be sceptical towards China because of past instances with athletes doping...but this doesn't apply to Western countries because we know that Western countries never had athletes that have used illegal drugs.

      #woc mermaid swimming against the tides of society’s love of white dudes

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  3. Sorry, gotta root for the home team. I haven't seen any of the men's gymnastics. I am enamored with the male swimmers, all races and ethnic backgrounds

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    1. Yeah, I haven't been watching so much, but definitely track results, and admit that every 4 years, I want the USA to win everything, esp. in swimming and track and field. I mean, I definitely applaud some of the performances(Usain Bolt) and surprise upsets (like the Chinese hurdler in Athens who shocked the hell out of us all), I'm always rooting for team USA. I'm totally sad that we will not be owning the 100M this time (and I'm sorry, but those black sprinters are some sexy, sexy things...I could probably put together a top 10 list of hottest Olympians just looking at the last few Olympics), but yeah, the Jamaican matchup between Bolt and his training partner should be something. Again the discussion of physics and the fact that Bolt is incredibly fast but doesn't have great technique is interesting (I studied engineering and medicine before changing directions).
      But you should check out the American who won a bronze medal in gymnastics. He is pretty tasty and he had a picture sticking out his tongue that impressed me (I won't explain why).

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    2. Are you talking about Danell Leyva? Been checking that man out since the Olympics began. He definitely looks tasty. His stepdad doesn't look too shabby himself.

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    3. Speaking of tasty http://fashionado.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Picture-2_2-478x604.png

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  4. I'm on and off watching it but I have watched both men and women's gymnastics and swimming.My attention was focused on people like Gabby Douglas,Lea Neal,John Orozco and other Olympic standouts that be missing from my list:-)

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  5. If you want to watch BBC's superior coverage, follow the directions on this thread.

    http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/70764580.html?thread=12410530084#t12410530084

    I hear NBC's coverage has been shit.

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  6. Chile, I am currently without cable access and haven't been enthused enough to watch the coverage online. But thanks for the link Charmed...

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  7. To supplement Charmed's link: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2407823,00.asp

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  8. Hello, Ankhesen,everyone. Forgive me this not about the games,have you knowledge of a Japanese Group called Exile. They have 14 members and one is blasian (Gorgeous) I found out about them on Blackwomenlovebi, check them out on youtube, I would have put a video on your site ,but I dont know how. Thanks

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  9. Have you seen the biased coverage on U.S gymnast Jordan Weiber!? Ughh Like they keep bringing up her sob story on how she was supposed to (entitled) win all around gymnast. Then the public was in a roar over the 2 gymnast of all around rule. They were saying things like "Jordan is the World Champion she should automatically qualify" and " don't blame Aly.." ughh No body cared about that rule until GABRIELLE and Aly made it. Not the assumed Jordan and Aly.
    (sighs) white people.
    Plus in the finals Gabby out scored Jordan on a most of the evens, and the media was still focused on her. When They won the gold medals, the annoucer was like "Jordan went through redemption."

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  10. Oh yeah, and also, have you seen the coverage of the Korean lady during the fencing? She was robbed of her win. http://www.buzzfeed.com/ktlincoln/an-olympic-fencer-refuses-to-leave-the-floor-after

    oh and btw, Kyla Ross on the U.S gymnastics team is just a bundle of ethnicities. Her father is Blasian (Japanese) and her mother is Filipina and Puerto Rican.

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    1. I'm not really sorry when I say that yes race plays a factor in this Olympics. Shin A Lam was ROBBED of her win, I think she's badass for no leaving the piste.

      And I'm not comfortable with the "dig that the media took at that 16 year old girl swimming for China" either, regardless of how "improbable" it is. There's a tag I came across recently that made me laugh #woc mermaid swimming against the tides of society’s love of white dudes #literally. Because we all know how society loves white men.

      Ye Shiwen is awesome and I'm totally side-eyeing the mentions of foul play or any other attempts at rational arguments. She should be congratulated like anyone else who has achieved such an amazing feat. And to quote this post; "The obvious answer is because men are stronger than women, and no woman should be able to compete on the same physical level as a dude in peak shape, right? Alright, here’s the deal. This is the Olympics. It’s true that generally, male athletes have more sheer physical strength than female athletes, but it isn’t so unreasonable to think that one woman on the planet could have the ability to outswim the boys. And if she existed, she’d probably be really famous and like, go to the Olympics, right?"

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  11. OH annnnd 6 days in there are already racist Olympian tweeters. http://www.bigwowo.com/2012/07/second-olympics-star-kicked-out-for-racist-tweeting/

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  12. I thought I was the only one who enjoyed witnessing the downfall of the empire.

    Also, is it just me, or does it seem as if there are a lot of events for swimming?

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    1. No, there is. There are the singles, relays, and diving.

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    2. Are there any other sports with so many seemingly-redundant events? What are the chances that the sport mainly played by white people is just coincidentally the sport with so many events?

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  13. BBC is doing a better job of coverage than NBC. I'm happy that the women's gymnastic won, but the commentary on certain athletes is working my nerves.

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  14. This is the first time, I've really watched so many sports ever! Kinda hated the opening ceremony, thought it was boring. I still remember when Boyz II Men performed at the Atlanta Olympics, so I had that on the mind. Supposedly the Spice Girls (ALL of them) will perform at the opening ceremony and I'm actually excited about seeing that!

    Yeah, I was happy those young ladies for the US took gold in gymnastic, but I felt bad for all of them when it came to coverage. It was completely unnecessary for NBC to constantly show that girl Jordyn crying and it overshadowed interviews from Gabby and Aly. And the other two young ladies, hardly got any face time when they ALL got gold. They each did their part, they should have gotten love for it.

    There have been way too many stupid scandals this year. Not only with the two Olympians being busted for racists tweets but apparently other Olympians are having Twitter rants/faux pas as well. Then the young Chinese girl who supposedly is doping, the South Korean women with fencing, Japan getting a score overturned to win a medal, and now three badminton teams were booted for playing poorly on purpose.

    I'm hoping the US takes women's volleyball and track on field as those are the only two sports I'm really interested in (outside of gymnastics).

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  15. Also I think some of the hotties in the Olympics should be posted: :)

    Josateki Naulu (Fiji)Judo- http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-pTeh9dIisvI/UBNPWkGoSEI/AAAAAAAAAD0/TSvUbegkyw8/s1600/Hot+Fijian+Guy.jpg

    John Steffensen (Australia) 400 M- http://ohellnawlblog.com/newohnblog/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/pic3.jpg

    Christine Sonali Merrill (SRI LANKA)Hurdles- http://www.missmalini.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/merrill6.jpg

    Trinidad and Tobago Athletes- http://ohellnawlblog.com/newohnblog/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/TT.jpg

    Fabiana Claudino (Brazil)Indoor Volleyball- http://racabrasil.uol.com.br/cultura-gente/159/imagens/i299177.jpg

    Ryan Lochte (USA)Swimming-http://cdn.sheknows.com/articles/2012/07/ryan-lochte-2nd-gold.jpg

    Nina Ligon (Thailand)Equestrian- http://ninaligon.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/A-Taste-of-Thai.jpg

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  16. Yaaaaay! Gabby won the gold.

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  17. I'm not Team USA. Team USA isn't even Team USA; USA has a really bad habit of choosing its Golden Chose White Child and ignoring everyone else on the team. The fact Gabby Douglas was basically the "Fab Five's" neglected shadow is a great example of this.

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    1. Finally,the news that I wanted to hear..GABBY WINS!

      I started to get mad. How did the initial praise of her suddenly become about someone else? No matter how popular she was, it seemed that NBC wanted to douse her fire.That's OK she got the gold.

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  18. Can we talk about how they call her the "Flying Squirrel" and are now trying to cover their asses by pointing out how mean black people were to her on Twitter.

    They've been slipping in their own tears since Jordan Wieber failed to make it to the finals and suddenly now they lover her and WE hate her?

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  19. Was anyone else bothered by the guy who said that barriers for African Americans have been long gone but "imaginary barriers" remain? I don't know his name but he's the one they show sitting at that blue screen/desk telling you what sport they're showing next. That really ticked me off!

    Why is it necessary to add in a thinly veiled snide comment to black people to stop whining about racism? Sure, he should definitely mention that she's the first black gold winner in women's gymnastics (and she's only the second to even be on the team) but doesn't that just prove the opposite of his "imaginary barriers" statement? Since it's taken this long, access to quality training and facilities is clearly not as available to blacks (she wouldn't have even gotten it if she hadn't left home) at it is to whites so these barriers are no where near imaginary.

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    1. Holy shit! What an asshole! There's nothing imaginary about American racism. On a certain level, white people are aware about inequality, but they refuse to acknowledge racism as the culprit. So they know people of color are worse off in many areas of life, but they insist inequality of opportunity does not exist. So essentially, they are white supremacists.

      Not to mention all the scientific studies proving that prejudice and discrimination still exist against PoC.

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    2. I think it was Bob Costas? I actually thought he was setting up a story that would feature young black girls who looked up to Gabby and Dominique Dawes that were taking gymnastics. When it didn't happen I was completely confused by the point of his statements. He did make it sound something like, "yeah black girls, this is easy to get into, look Gabby did it!" But fails to mention that Gabby had to LEAVE HOME to do it, something that was still hard on her and her family.

      Also, right after his segment, I'm pretty positive the first commercial featured a monkey on the gymnastic rings. While I think it was a promo for some NBC show (it's not the first time I'd seen the commercial), but came right after Gabby getting her gold, and the Costas speech. Fail on NBC for that one. I hope people continue to get angry at NBC and rally to have more streaming sites to air the Olympics on a new station to do it.

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    3. Just read an article in which all the white people start coming out of the woodwork to defend him, "Oh, he has a point." No, he doesn't. While it is true some people of color have internalized racism, that only happened because they were born and raised in a white supremacist society, not because they spontaneously developed an "inferiority complex" after gazing upon the visage of the almighty whitey. Fucking imps.

      Not to mention his conclusion of American racism, claiming that institutional racism and individual prejudice and discrimination from whites no longer exist, it's all in our heads. Get the fuck outta here, Costas troll.

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  20. Speaking of Gabby Douglas, I have to give a big ups to Béla Károlyi for hijacking some woman's interview. Gabrielle had just won and yet she's interviewing some girl that won at Beijing. He just interrupted her and began to talk about how great Gabby was and how important her win is and how she's now a role model to so many young girls. It was glorious. The lady could only stare at him quietly. God, I hate NBC but so glad I didn't miss that.

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    1. Man, it just kills some people to have to go off script, huh? *evil cackle*

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  21. Gabby Douglas and her coach, another example of a Blasian colloaboration
    http://tinyurl. com/ch9ye3p

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    1. sorry try this link: http://tinyurl.com/c9c9kb8
      this is her coach
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liang_Chow

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  22. Serena working her mojo winning the single's gold, and the Williams sisters taking the gold for doubles. Serena was tearing her opponents up, like "NEXT!".

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