9.25.2012

TigerJK, what are you apologizing for?

(h/t Meanie)

From AllKPop:
Tiger JK has apologized for his “racist” outburst at a recent event for ‘The Creators Project'.

...According to Tiger JK, hecklers in the audience insisted that he perform the “horse dance” from the choreography of Psy‘s “Gangnam Style“, and he was unable to hold back his frustration. He tweeted, “Creators project event other night. I went crazy on all them white folks in the crowd, Cussing them out. During my set, these dudes kept telling me to horse dance , F rapping just dance. I had to cut all my song short. Without self control. My F*** you turned into F** everybody To F*** all the white people to F*** CNN To F *** Hollywood. To Fu** all yall who think Asians are here to make you laugh by dancing my asses off. F** Hollywood thinkin Asians are just a comic relief.”
Behold the tweets:


Why the hell is this man apologizing?  For what?

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55 comments:

  1. I wouldn't have apologized for a damn thing. White folks got their racist panties in a bunch because Tiger didn't stay in his lane. F*ck that. I would have stood by my statement and dared white folks to say something about it. Tiger isn't dependent on racists crackers to buy his music so screw 'em.

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  2. I went crazy on all them white folks in the crowd, Cussing them out.

    YASSSS!!!! Tasha is so lucky! lmao

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  3. I like how he is respectful of Psy's success but makes it clear that the problem is not the comparison, is once again the need to can everybody in a category... he's asian, why doesnt he dance like the other asian guy?... you know the chubbier funny one... that doesnt look a thing like him and whose music is completely different.... *massive facepalm*

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    1. You summed up exactly the way I felt. I saw no reason to apologize.

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  4. While I find nothing wrong with what he said, sadly, it's culture. Korea has this tendency to apologize for EVERYTHING. Even if it's not worth apologizing for. I guess it's being polite. But, I agree. I wouldn't have apologized for sh*t. He told them exactly what they deserved to hear. I don't think that he was being racist. He was justified in his words. TOLD THEM WHITE FOLK OFF. As he should have. He got all up in their ass as he should have. They didn't like that and now to avoid "controversy" he apologized. Bump that. Screw all them stupid ignorant white hecklers at that concert. He ain't like the submissive little stereotype. UGH. Tiger, I'm still with you baby. You said what needed to be said. You stood your ground and strapped on your balls. Kudos.

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  5. I see nothin wrong with his statement. He's right.

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  6. If they got their asses handed to them more often, maybe they wouldn't be so eager to act out of pocket. They needed a dose of hometraining, and there's no need to apologise for that. I understand if it's as Chanel explained, but really...he didn't owe them mo'fuggas shit.

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  7. I'm also thinking about his wife who might collaborate with American artists (there has been some rumors and a feat with FM)...and Psy's current success in the US...he might be thinking to not mess up for them, as well as not coming off as a bitter angry asian. I don't believe that it is valid though, her wife is more likely to collaborate with blacks and Psy is already very popular with his song there. Tiger JK's words won't probably have much impact. As for being angry, he has all the reasons to be, even if he ends up generalizing.

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    1. Not really coming off as angry but as a racist, seems that's the core of his concern and what motivated him to apologizing. Race is a very sensitive topic for him and in the US, the country he wants to have more gigs in. I can understand his decision to apologize. Career wise too.

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  8. Man... JK don't play. I've been listening to Drunken Tiger for a while but gained a whole new level of respect for him ever since he broke it down about blackface on Korean Television (http://www.allkpop.com/2012/03/op-ed-guest-post-by-tiger-jk-a-simple-suggestion-on-racial-prejudice).

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    1. P.S: Had to stop reading the AKP comments (as usual). Nearly drowned in a sea of white tears.

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    2. Rufus you ain't lyin'! I almost drowned in the tears. These are the same white folks who remained silent when images of k-pop artists dressed in blackface. I avoid those sites like the plague.

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    3. TRUTH. Those kind of fans are the type that only decide something is a problem until "oppar" says it's a problem. Of course, JK isn't an idol, so I suppose his words mean nothing. *shrug*

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  9. Tiger JK for president!

    Seriously, why should the man apologize? This man was rightfully offended about people assuming the worst about Koreans and Asians in general. I don't know what make some people think that you can come over to someone else's country and be stupid. It's just plain disrespectful. They need a man like Tiger to tell it like it is.

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  10. I don't see anything worth apologising for in Tiger JK's statements either but I can see why he had to do it...especially if he wants to keep the "white" people happy. I can't be mad if he's apologised to get his money home (and as Myra pointed out, not to mess things up for people he cares about).

    If I were in the public eye as a China-Africa scholar (I dream big), I really wouldn't say everything I believe out loud, especially when it comes to "white" people. I'd also apologise if I made a slip, and it affected my money and/or rising star.

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  11. I wonder if some of the apology was also motivated by a Tiger JK not wanting this to become a "Tiger JK Hates PSY" battle. Even though I don't get that intent at all, having read some other stuff on AllKpop in general, I can easily see this becoming a "Tiger is a bitter old man who hates PSY because he ssssssooooooo successful," story. And it would miss the point of what he was saying. And I'm with Myra, I think he fully meant what he said, but maybe didn't want it to be expressed at such an event. He has written about racism before and probably didn't want to come out as the bitter Asian man.

    On a random note, I should start follow Tiger JK apparently he has a lot a good rants. LOL Last I heard he ripped YG Entertainment to shreds and when after G-Dragon with a vengeance.

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    1. "On a random note, I should start follow Tiger JK apparently he has a lot a good rants. LOL Last I heard he ripped YG Entertainment to shreds and when after G-Dragon with a vengeance."

      I heard about this, but since I don't have twitter... But I also heard that his account was hacked and it wasn't him tweeting. I also found it funny because 2NE1 performed and took a pic with him at the concert where he cussed the folks out.

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    2. "when after G-Dragon"

      Ugh WTF is up with my spelling!? >_< "WENT after G-Dragon"

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    3. Damn! His account was hacked? lmao! His rants are amazing though. He's very open, honest, real and a lot of fun.

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    4. AKP is full of fans who are completely brainwashed. You can't have an intelligent discussion with anyone over there. One word against their precious "oppa" and they lose it.

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    5. Psigh... (pun intended at the comment about Tiger JK's "supposedly" jealousy) It's a shame that some people will think that :(

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  12. I've been following him for awhile now. He's no big fan of G-Dragon. lol

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    1. Please please PLEASE provide me with links to this. I'll be your bestie. *sprinkled with sugar and a cherry on top*

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    2. Links would be very much appreciated.. :)

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    3. I know YG made some snide remarks about Tiger's alleged substance abuse problems. Supposedly he has two accounts, but word is the second account isn't really him. So I guess that wasn't really him I was reading :-( lol Here's a screencap of his official twitter account tweeting the second account to fans:

      http://hallyu8.com/topic/17712-tiger-jk-really-tweets-hilarious-jyj-and-yg-bashing-the-regular-butthurt-yg-stans-discredit-it-proof-inside/

      Regardless, I dig the man. He gets my full support. I know that must have humiliating for him at that concert.

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    4. As far as his "outbursts" on twitter... I've been in agreement/support of him regarding all of them that I've seen. Homie keeps it real lol. I'd rather see that than the oppars and unnirs posting selcas 24/7.

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  13. It's annoying when the only thing people focus on is that he cussed white folks out. Did the people complaining actually FEEL where he was coming from and pay attention to his words? He was being degraded as an artist and a person by being told what to do which had nothing to do with his work. He isn't burger king. They can't have it there way. The members of the crowd that treated him that way are wrong. Much respect for TigerJK.

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  14. I see both sides. On one point, I understand him not wanting to call out EVERY single white person, but then I get reminded of all the ignorant *ish white folk dish out, but can't take. When Hollister opened a store in Korea, their models (mostly white of course) caused problems for taking insensitive pictures and making fun of the same people they're trying to sell to.

    The whole Psy thing...I personally think it's a fad. I saw someone tweet about...let me find it: "Finally saw the Gangnam style video. William Hung is making a great comeback in pop music."

    After I read that, I realized this is probably the way most view Psy. As another "dorky" Asian that dances. So now that I've marinated on recent events, I don't know why he apologized. If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

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    1. Did you see on Ellen's show that Psy actually had to interrupt Ellen and ASK to introduce himself "and not just come out and dance"? Simon didn't even bother getting up and just waved from his seat and Britney's outfit was of Chinese influence...

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    2. Not surprised.

      *dance puppet, dance!* -__-

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  15. Holy that was hot. Tasha's got good taste. I want links to him taking down those yuppies at YG too, lol.

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    1. Damn right, Tasha's got good taste! This here's an amazing man!

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  16. I feel soo old cuz I have no idea who you are talking about.....

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  17. The problem is that TigerJK is the wronged part...yet he's the one apologizing.

    He was racially disrespected...yet he's the one apologizing.

    Even worse, his apology is expected. His behavior is considered the one in poor taste.

    So let me get this straight: when audience members were generalizing about this 38-year-old hip hop legend - a grown man who's been rapping for almost two decades - we get *crickets*. But when he fights back - as he damn well should - suddenly generalizations are a problem.

    The next time that shit happens, dude needs to just step on audience member's face and have done with it.

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    1. Thank you Ankh! When is this shit going to end? These white folks roll up in his country and pull a stunt like this? He's a grown man, and probably couldn't take it anymore. POC are always being told to say sorry, "Let it go.", "It's not that serious.", "Its just a joke!" You get tired of that shit after awhile. Not to mention the racist attack on his child he experienced. Enough is enough.

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    2. We saw the same pattern with the Hollister fiasco. A bunch of privileged white males come to Korea and mock their people and culture, but the minute Korean citizens called them out on it, ohhhh the tears. "See everyone?? We're victims of racism just like you!"

      I look forward to more of JK's outburts. I really do.

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    3. Enough is enough indeed. POC have to stop apologizing in these situations and trying to make the effort to play nice with those who refuse to behave.

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  18. I didn't know who Psy was, so I youtubed him. Other than a few kpop acts (Rain, 2ne1, Shinee, Boa) I'm not really into the kpop scene. However, I DO realize their relentless efforts to break into the US market. I can totally understand JK's frustration after watching the "gangnam style" mv. There were SO many acts that debuted in America with tepid results at best. Some of them were actually cute! (I liked the Wondergirls and their Motown-style single "Nobody). But then you have acts like Psy who fits every stereotype of the unnattractive, goofy asian,his video suddenly goes viral! The google search led me to a clip of the Ellen show where he was actin a fool while showing Britney Spears how to do the horse dance. Where was all this enthusiasm when Rain debuted in America? He damned near sang, danced, looked, and acted flawlessly! And yet the only comment they had for him was that he was an "Asian Justin Timberlake" smdh. No, Tiger had EVERY right to say what he said.

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  19. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hKS3-frEIg

    I don't know why but this song puts me in the mind of this entire situation.

    Lincoln Park - Lies Greed Mysery

    "What is it you want me to tell ya
    I am not the failure
    I would rather live and let be
    But you came with the right kinda threat to
    Push me to let you know you can't intimidate me
    You disrespect me so clearly, now you better hear me
    That is not the way it goes down
    You did it to yourself and it's over
    Now let me show you
    Exactly how the breaking point sounds "

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  20. Oh no,they weren't going to do that with Rain. He doesn't meet the dorky status quo that they have for Asian male entertainers like him.Psy was who they want--non threatening. It also makes them very happy to know that's he's married and has his own family...the icing on the cake.

    Asian males are very big threat to the entertainment world and they know this. If it was him,Se7en or a member of 2pm doing this they would have everything thing negative to say about it by emasculating them. Since Bruce Lee came out,you would have expected more Asian males to come out,but that's not the case(Even with him,he seemed only relegated toKung Fu movies) and it seems to be more of the same today.I can't blame Tiger for speaking the truth.Whether they want to hear it/not hear it hes doing Kpop idols and their industry a huge favor..one that will help some of them in the long run.

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    1. Too many of these Korean artist that want to crossover to America don't realize the stereotypes and racist history that awaits them in America. You're right, they need more Koreans like Tiger speaking up and breaking the stereotypes of quiet docile asians.

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  21. When is the white male dominated focus going to end? It just is so boring and vanilla. Same old stereotype; the white man is sexy, brave, smart, an all around good person ready to save the day. Geez it's really nauseating.

    AC

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  22. So he basically Tiger JK calls out a bunch of ignorant white boys for what they are and gets in trouble.

    Goddamn I love this man :)

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    1. That sums it up quite nicely!

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  23. Psy is talented and entertaining and deserves his success. That being said, why is he famous in America but not this guy:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ro0d717tejg

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    1. Taeyang success is with the group BIGBANG. YG is actually opening up more concert dates for them since they sold out in two US cities, which was a surprise for YG.

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  24. Seoulbeats did a post about this... lets just say you can tell who is white in the comments section. (Most of the Black and Asian commenters know exactly what the author and Tiger JK are talking about.)
    http://seoulbeats.com/2012/10/why-tiger-jk-isnt-racist-shouldnt-have-apologized-and-how-psy-factors-in/

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    1. So much derailing in that post.

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    2. It needed to be said there (on that site).

      Tiger Jk only partially apologized. He didn't say he was sorry for saying what he said, he didn't say he was wrong for saying that. He said he was sorry for generalizing, but he still stands on the content of his "tirade" on that night, he does not regret what he said at all and didn't apologize for it. And yes, sadly white Americans will only remember the apology in itself, they will not understand why he ranted and how this apology is definitely partial.

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  25. @melanie Yes soo much unessary derailing. After countless people give examples of racism and the complications of it... I can only conclude that White fans (and White people in general) do not see because they don't want too.

    @Myra true true true. I just love how they keep pointing out what he did, but now what the White people did. Or they do, but its not as important. it reminds me of this gif: http://share.biyuti.com/post/25664112345/madamethursday-image-four-gifs-of-the

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  26. @Class of 13 and @Myra- I'm the username Jazzy on that site, and yeah it seems like I have to keep repeating myself on that site and people still don't get it, but its not like I didn't expect in all honesty, that's part of being privileged thinking you know more about minorities than actual minorities, thinking your opinion is somehow more valid because minorities opinions are too clouded with imaginary emotions about racism. I just put it anyways because the truth hurts and at least I'm striking a nerve. Its funny because one blogger in particular comment stood out to me. He started talking about Asian racism and how they love to point at white people instead of themselves. I almost laughed, really that comment sounds a lot like when someone tells you your faults but it sounds for all the world like they are talking about themselves. White people will go to extreme lengths to deny racism, they have no problem pointing out other people racism besides themselves. Asians are the exact opposite from what I've seen they are really blunt with their racism, and if Asian person is racist I know it from the start, whereas a white person tries to hide it, and will say something completely racist and swear up down that they aren't and that you are of course seeing race where there is none. I've commented like 20 times on that article, I should probably stop now because they aren't gonna get it.

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    1. "@Class of 13 and @Myra- I'm the username Jazzy on that site."

      Hi Jazzy I am MAR_M3anie on that site. I always see your comments and yeah after a while I don't try to explain anymore because it gets old.

      But anywho, hello. :)

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    2. Hi Meanie! O my user name is JasmineA on that site lol, I go buy Jazzy, JasmineA, or Luvfades depending on what account so sometimes I can't remember what name I'm using lol. But yeah if you see these usernames you know its me. Yeah I'm sure you see me around a lot, I'm very opinionated lol. Some of the derailing comments are from Asians themselves, but hey I think every race has that few people who buy into white propaganda. And I know black people who derail arguments too and will act like they are not like most black people and don't cry racism all the time. I can understand him apologizing for saying f all white people, but pointing out the racism that is in Hollywood is not racist towards white people. Its seems like people are trying to make him seem like he was completely in the wrong and had no right to say what he said.

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