Christelyn Karazin, Author of the Book 'Swirling', Interviews with Robert Darrien

Thank you Christelyn for taking the time to share your thoughts and insight with our audience. You are very skilled and incredibly talented, what inspired you to write your book Swirling?

Life is changing. We're all becoming part of this cultural gumbo, with more interracial marriages and more intercultural couplings than ever before in American history. We wrote the book because the changing culture calls for a change in the dialogue about mixed race merges.  Swirling is a conversation starter and a handbook for people who are ready to "choose character above color." We do it in a candid, approachable and funny way.

What values and beliefs would you want your readers to walk away with after reading your book?

If there's one thing I want the readers to walk away with as in all things, CHOOSE CHARACTER ABOVE COLOR.

For someone who was curious or scared about dating outside their race, what would you tell them?

I'd tell them to read Swirling! lol. In all seriousness, I would say two things. If someone is "scared" to date outside their race, it's probably a good time to explore WHY you have this fear. We're not in the business of forcing people to do something that they don't want to do, so if someone has a fear of associating with another race and they bring that into the mix, there's going to be a problem. Now if someone is "Curious", then I'd advise they start online and from a safe distance. Join some Facebook interracial dating groups. Get an online profile at a dating site. Ease into the idea slowly.

For a woman who is involved in dating outside her race, what are some tips that you would give her?

Here's my tips...
DO - Choose character above color. This will only help maximize exposure.
DO - Be interested in people of different culture, religion, or race. It will help with families accepting you.
DON'T - Don't take your baggage or insecurities about dating another race with you on the first date.
DON'T - Don't lose yourself or your identity. Make it a fusion with mutual respect.

How do you feel about interracial relationships currently portrayed on TV/Movies/Music Industries? What would you like to see in the future?

I think the depictions on television of interracial couples is promising. It's art imitating life. I'm loving the swirled couples on 'Parenthood,' 'Scandal,' and '666 Park Avenue.' I'd like to see more ethnic pairings between black women and Asian and Hispanic men though.

(For your very own copy of Swirling, CLICK HERE.)

Thank you so much Christelyn!!! I really appreciate your time. I can't wait to see what other future projects you have in store for us.


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    1. Good job, Robert!!!! This is a wonderful interview!!!

    2. >>>>> Thank you Ankhesen!!! It really means a lot. Right now I'm thinking of how I can do better. I really appreciate your on-going support. :)

  2. "I'd like to see more ethnic pairings between black women and Asian and Hispanic men though."

    From your lips to God's ears. Despite what Hollywood would have us believe, Nordic-looking white men aren't the only other men on the planet. Thanks for the interview, Robert!

  3. I may not always see eye to eye with with Kristelyns blog,but I will have to absolutely agree with her about other swirling mates.Dont get me wrong,I don't have any problems with B/W coming together whatsoever,but people forget that "Swirling" is just not about Black and White.I share your sentiments when it comes to this issue. You really dont see a lot of Asian and Latino men being paired with Black women in TV series and movies.Seen some inTyler Perry movies/TV series both LM/BW ,AMBW, and. WM/BW,RainBi and Naomie Harris on Ninja Assassin and even as a kid remembered looking at the Jeffersons where Florence(Marla Gibbs) was paired with a handsome Samoan man in during a trip to Hawaii,but overall ,all of those scenes are just a drop in the bucket compared to the WM/BW couples that have been shown..and continue to be shown on the big screen.

    One person on a IR blog brought up a valid complaint about it.While WM/BW unions are real,the way that media potrays them makes it seem that other BW/XF couples never existed. I know that Ive seen all sorts of Black women be with Asian,Native American,Arab and Latino guys and even one that was an Inuit from Canada,which Inuits themselves are rare in Georgia only because there are not a lot of them that lives in the South.Yes,WM/BW couples are real,but for media to pretend that other non white couples doesn't exist isn't the truth.


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