12.21.2013

Denying Racism: Welfare Edition

As some of you may know, one of the redneck hillbillies from the show "Duck Dynasty" is homophobic and racist. Big surprise, I know.

 http://www.gq.com/entertainment/television/201401/duck-dynasty-phil-robertson

What drew my ire was his "pre-entitlement, pre-welfare" comment. I can only assume he was attempting to attribute racial inequality to welfare, as opposed to racism, you know, the actual fucking cause. He is the latest in a long line of whites who have attempted to do this.

Basically, whites see welfare as the cause of racial inequality. Bullshit, it is a symptom of racial inequity. There is a disproportionate number of black people on welfare because of inequality of opportunity and discrimination, because of de facto segregation.

Furthermore, let’s look at what white people are really saying. There is a disproportionate number of black people on welfare, but they are obviously not the only ones on welfare. In fact, the majority of people on welfare are white. Yes, believe it or not, whites not only have access to welfare, but they also use it…a lot. SHOCKER. So how can welfare cause racial inequality when whites also have access to welfare? It’s not a variable; it’s a constant. Maybe if black people were the only ones who had access to welfare, they would have a point. However, that’s obviously not the case at all.

Thus, we get what they are really trying to say: whites believe that if they have access to welfare, only a few go on it, and they are “strong” enough to get off it; however, if black people have access to welfare, a horde of them get on it, and they are “too weak” to get off it. In conclusion, when white people claim inequality is the result of welfare, a program available to all races, what they are really saying is that inequality is the result of black people being so pathologically weak they cannot resist welfare, in contrast to the superiority of whites. Hmm, what do you call that type of belief? Oh yea, that’s right: RACISM.

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  1. I just love how White people put welfare on Black folk considering that ..like you said.. the majority of the recipients using it are White. I trip out on how they always threaten to hurt "us"because us is really them.

    If you ever looked at some episodes of DD, they have an "adopted" Biracial/Black 11 year old son (lil' Wil) and it is said that he has a foster daughter from Taiwan (Some say foreign exchange student.. idk).,but far as Willie's son, he's not shown a lot on there and when he is you never see him smile on the show. I could be wrong but a part of have to wonder if he just him, he feels awkward because he knows he's not White or just maybe there could be a possibility that he's not being treated right because of it . It wouldn't surprise me if that was the case.

    West Monroe ,Louisiana isa little over 60percent White and 30percent Black. I wonder does this child go to school with a mixed crowd ? Black or mixed, I would never put my kid in a mostly White school. I say this respectfully, but as a mixed/Black kid, I just feel that he will not be treated right and being who they are won't help. On a slightly lighter note,have you ever look at at lil Will close up?Yeah...he'll probably be a heart breaker..lol..but if you really look at him,he look so much like Willie, the smile and the other features on him are like his. Notice how I put adopted in quotation marks. Maybe it could new coincidental, but you just have to wonder if as my late grandmother would say if Willie has "been playing in the tulips"?

    My grandparents lived in those so called" pre-welfare" times (never heard of such stupidity) .My grandparents was never on welfare and if Phil did his homework most Black people didn't rely on it and still don't. Back in the day, he couldn't be around a lot Black people or did he forget about Jim Crow? Maybe he came across a passable really fair skinned Black who told him not to tell their race (and you cant be totally happy pretending to be something your not )but c'mon .Maybe their were happy with their family and friends but all that segregation.. please!

    Mind you that Phil said he was a terrible guy during his heydey (He's still an idiot) but how on can down gays when he was cheating, gambling and left his family at one time? This reminds of the story in the Bible where a woman was about to get stoned for her sin and god told her tormentors "He who case the first stone" in the book of John or Matthew where the Lord said "Judge ye not, for you are also being judged". What Phil is doing is a sin because he judging people ..in this case, Blacks and gays. Definitely, the good Lord may get on his case about his actions. God also talks about false prophets. Far as I'm concerned, he and Faux friends are just that. .

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  2. And he's baaaaack.

    I wondered what would get you incensed enough to start scribbling again.

    Present for you:

    "She has eighty names, thirty addresses, twelve Social Security cards and is collecting veteran's benefits on four non-existing deceased husbands. And she is collecting Social Security on her cards. She's got Medicaid, getting food stamps, and she is collecting welfare under each of her names. Her tax-free cash income is over $150,000."

    ~ Ronald Reagan on "the welfare queen"
    (Source)

    Enjoy!

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  3. Where do I begin?

    1) Even in "pre-welfare" times (I'm referring to the Depression era), needy Black families were less likely to receive support. So again, yes, most recipients of federally funded aid were white. And on top of Southern states receiving a disproportionate share of federal aid, there are actually additional federal departments specifically devoted to giving aid to Southern states.

    Ever heard of the Delta State Rural Development Network Grant Program? According to its website, its "...purpose is to fund organizations located in the eight Delta States (Alabama, Arkansas, Illinois, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, and Tennessee) to address unmet local health care needs and prevalent health disparities through the development of new and innovative projects in rural Delta communities..." (Source: http://www.hrsa.gov/ruralhealth/about/community/deltaprogram.html)

    Considering the history of the aforementioned states, I wouldn't be surprised if stats reveal continued racial disparity for access to federal aid.

    2) Upon not so careful inspection (because these "Duck Dynasty" guys aren't hiding anything), you'll find that this is a yuppie privileged family masquerading as "salt of the earth rednecks". If you go here http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/12/20/1264354/-Duck-Dynasty-is-a-Fake-Yuppies-in-Red-Neck-Drag-Con-Job#, you'll find family photos taken shortly before the A&E series began.

    “Three brothers on the show are bearded and gruff all of a sudden when they previous had been - well - far more likely to be on the cover of GQ than dear-ole dad [or maybe The Advocate particularly with those frosted tips], yet the one brother who is not on the show for the first four years Isn't Like That?”

    It's Bush Jr. all over again: a rich man, posing as the living embodiment of "Average Joe," stirs the ire of working class people for selfish gain.

    3) Ankhesen Mie, you beat me to it! I just Josh Levine's article about Linda Taylor (http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/history/2013/12/linda_taylor_welfare_queen_ronald_reagan_made_her_a_notorious_american_villain.html).

    Before this reply gets indecently wrong, Linda Taylor was one of over 120 aliases for a white woman who defrauded multiple federal aid programs, including welfare. At the time of her arrest, "Linda Taylor" was actually passing as a Black woman. Sadly this key detail was lost in the sensational details of her case.

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    1. Pardon the typos in #3! I meant to say "indecently long".

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  4. Of course when their crispy asses use it its called helping the needy not welfare. on this one documentary you should have seen all the dirty smelling dirt covered white folks waiting for their welfare hand out, and other white ppl werent upset.

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  5. I just found this website basically by chance, but I gotta ask, are you coming from a place of racial equality or a place of whites being evil just bc of their skin color? I'm mixed race, so I guess I kind of see it from both sides, but some of the comments on here (and to a lesser extent the content itself) does not seem to be pointing out specific people who have made egregious claims or actions but instead just attack whites in general, which is just as dangerous as anything that comes from that side as it sets up a culture of generalization and hate. As someone who has a white side of the family and a black side (both massive and involved in their communities) I think it is funny (in a sad way) what a disconnect there is between the two races. The white side spends all their time trying to be PC and not say or do anything that could remotely be considered racist and the blcak side spends their time thinking that the whites think all blacks are hood trash. That's the problem with all of this, there is just no communication between the races. Of course there are differences in blacks & whites, I mean just look at African culture vs. European culture vs. Japanesse culture, etc. What it should be about it celebrating those differences and working for equality. Not just hating back at the other side.

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    1. I just found this website basically by chance, but I gotta ask, are you coming from a place of racial equality or a place of whites being evil just bc of their skin color?

      To your question a question: Are you coming from a place of genuine curiosity or did you just stop by to lecture?

      Unlike the sweet and diplomatic Amanda O., I am one of the moderators (actually co-founder) of this blog and I see comments like this all the time. In case you forgot (or simply didn't read), this very post you're commenting on begins thusly:

      As some of you may know, one of the redneck hillbillies from the show "Duck Dynasty" is homophobic and racist. Big surprise, I know.

      What drew my ire was his "pre-entitlement, pre-welfare" comment. I can only assume he was attempting to attribute racial inequality to welfare, as opposed to racism, you know, the actual fucking cause. He is the latest in a long line of whites who have attempted to do this.


      In other words, the anti-black AND anti-gay hatespeech of a specific white person inspired Ballisto to write this. That's often the case with our posts and subsequent discussions. To put it bluntly, they start it, we discuss it. Yet despite that fairly obvious pattern, you seem in a rush to simply defend white people.

      As someone who has a white side of the family and a black side (both massive and involved in their communities) I think it is funny (in a sad way) what a disconnect there is between the two races.

      I happen to think there's nothing funny or sad about it. I think "disconnect" is an merely shallow euphemism for formalized white supremacy.

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    2. You know what’s really interesting? Some of the things I have said have already been uttered by Tim Wise, and a lot of my comments are of the same nature. You know what is even more interesting? He, too, is accused of being anti-white. You know what’s most interesting? Tim Wise is a white guy.

      Your comment seems awfully familiar. I doubt you’re the same person, but the mindset is similar. A while ago, there was someone who believed racism, at least against People of Color, no longer existed. His evidence? From his observations, he believed whites went out of their way to not be racist. It was very close to your comment, minus the insult toward “the black side.”

      Where do I begin? First off, when I see comments of this nature, I think, “Gee, that’s some nice unverifiable, subjective anecdotal evidence you got there.” It’s pretty hard for me to refute what your family has done, given that I’ve never met them before. Although that’s the point, right? You lambast me for pointing out very public patterns of behavior amongst white Americans, because what I should really be doing is basing my entire argument on personal anecdotes that no one knows about or could possibly know about.

      Second, the whole “white people go out of their way to not be racist” claim is utterly insane. If anything, whites are going out of their way to BE RACIST. How is William Hung so well-remembered if whites are going out of their way to not be racist? How is there a racist caricature on “2 Broke Girls” if whites are going out of their way to not be racist? How did the racist fake names of Asiana pilots get broadcasted if whites are going out of their way to not be racist? How did Trayvon Martin get murdered and subsequently denied justice if whites are going out of their way to not be racist? How is there so much unopposed inequity if whites are going out of their way to not be racist? How is there so much racism on the Internet if whites are going out of their way to not be racist?

      And yes, I know most white people in America do not go around lynching People of Color. But of course, that’s not the only way to be racist. If you are indulging in white privilege, which comes at the expense of People of Color’s suffering, and are not actively opposing white hegemony, you are racist. That does not apply to all whites, of course, but it certainly applies to a vast majority. So much so that to generalize the efforts of a few white anti-racists to the whole white population would be unfair…for the few white anti-racists. Let’s not extend credit beyond those who earned it.

      Furthermore, the notion that resistance to white supremacy is “just as dangerous” as white supremacy is dishonest, to say the least. I wish my words were dangerous enough to free Children of Color from schools of concentrated poverty. I wish my words were dangerous enough to end labor market discrimination. I wish my words were dangerous enough to end the justice system’s persecution of People of Color. Most of all, I wish I was dangerous enough to actually get shit done.

      One last point, for now. The notion that racism persists because People of Color just won’t work with whites is just bullshit. Yeah, it has nothing to do with white people’s desire to maintain the status quo of white supremacy. It has nothing to do with their unwillingness to relinquish or even abstain from white privilege. It’s because of “haters” like me who keep holding white people accountable for their current-day actions. It’s because I keep saying “whites” instead of specifying the exact percentage of whites who engage in the action or speech. It’s because of racists like me, right?

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  6. "That's the problem with all of this, there is just no communication between the races... What it should be about it celebrating those differences and working for equality. Not just hating back at the other side."

    Jason, I'm not one of the moderators, just a long-time fan of the blog. If you take the time to review earlier posts and the mission of the blog (see 'About the Narrators' and 'Rules of Engagement'), you'll see that what you mentioned is actually the whole point of the blog: communication to dispel ignorance and hate.

    Also, if you read Ballisto's post (carefully, not merely glancing), you'll notice that Ballisto pointed out the hypocrisy and underlying racism with recently proposed social welfare reform and cuts. These cuts will adversely affect both low-income whites and blacks. Yet due to pervasive negative stereotypes about welfare recipients, voters and politicians believe this is a way to cut off lazy and dependent blacks.
    And as it was pointed out in a few earlier replies, the original 'welfare queen', who is the basis of these racist stereotypes, was actually a white woman who was 'passing' as black when her fraud was exposed.

    We need to discuss that, not avoid it for the sake of being PC.

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  7. Think of all those stories of people making millions and millions of dollars living in lavish houses and are on welfare and are doing it legally due to "loopholes". Trust and believe white people love handouts and freebies and shortcuts they use it all the time to their benefit, they just don't like it when other people get it.

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    1. Isn't this funny, I was just looking at a news report about veterans going on food stamps and welfare and do you want to know the interesting thing about the people that were being interviewed for this story, they we're WHITE but I admire them, they told the world that they weren't ashamed in getting these things because they needed them or else they would starve to death.

      A couple of days ago, you probably came across a racist Georgia Senator who thought that low income kids should pat for their school lunch. If those same kids were working for an American company overseas and even here in the states.. that violating child laborlaws and I'm so sick of these low life's insinuating that Black folks don't work.Do the GOP have to be reminded what Rev. Raphael Warnock told Newt Gingrich about Black folks working for the last 200or more years? I guess they forget about slaves building the Whitehouse for no pay.

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    2. Corporate welfare and bailouts?

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    3. One of the reasons why I love BN is because were dealing with people who don't tell you what you want to hear...but what you should hear. In addition to that most of the commentors will tell you things they have experienced and can back what they say. I'm also not moderator of this blog but I've never came across a blog where they are about finding solutions and the truth which is what I see with Ballisto's article.

      Just because you're mixed doesn't mean that you should shy away from truth. I'm Black, but I'm also part Asian (Indian). My late grandfather was Blasian/Blindian and died when I was 14,but I remember him. Sure, he knew that he was mixed, but he was real but whatever injustices he seen he spoke against when it concerned POCs. I know other mixed race people who would do the same,some are on this blog, but injustice is injustice.My grandpops often taught me and my sibs to speak up against wrongdoing no matter what race they were. If I were mixed race like he was,I'm not taking sides and / or silent because of it.

      There is nothing sad.. as Ankh said about this...it is the pure truth. Why should Ballisto hold back on it?I admit, I get frustrated of how people are quick to find the "problems"with Black folk,but when the real problem such as the ones Ballisto discusses in his two blog posts, people remain silent or they'll call "Free Speech"..or free slander as I would call it. They so far have cared less about the feelings POCs ,gays,Muslims, immigrants ,Jews etc...They never do.

      When will Blacks and Whites coincide with each other,you may ask? When responsibility and honesty comes from White(racist) society. When will they acknowledge and dispel the constant institutionalized and even blantant racism and discrimination end,when will they..as a whole.. stand up and respect the minority community? When will they stop lying on us? As long as the denial and lack of responsibility continue from them, this will continue.

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  8. Yeah...when will they talk about Corporate welfare and bailouts? Only the poor mooch from the system, they just work hard for their money(sarcasm) .. lol!

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  9. Have you seen their before pictures? They're yuppies who grew beards to make more money and to hurt the poor whites who look up to them. So many of those poor, republican whites will use them as an example for bootstrapping and its sad.

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  10. You're right. find it to be ironic that out of all of the people that White society try to use, poor Whites are used the most. I looked at those pictures from their past and it's unbelievable how they looked..actually ,they were nice looking ,preppy guys, although they said they struggled and became rich with their duck calling business. It was said that Phil almost became a pro football player and was so good that he beat out Terry Bradshaw but he wanted to remain in Louisiana.... hunting.


    I feel bad for their adopted kids. While Phil was too busy mocking gays and Blacks, he didn't even bother to consider their feelings. As I mentioned, Lil Will is shown on occasion and when you do see him, he rarely smiles or have and active role on there. No telling what he knows and what he had to swallow. Phil is too busy putting down Blacks and gays and hanging around the FOX community yet he didn't stand up for them and what's to say they're are no gays in his family? It's bad enough that the world is prejudiced .They( GOP) don't care for minorities and nine times ten you know that some of his " friends" really don't care for Willie's family.

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